Cult Of Games XLBS: Hobby Satisfaction! Where Do You Get Yours?
August 3, 2025 by crew
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3rd!!!
In a hobbit civil wat in NI one of the sides would be thd Prodfeet. Not very well organised but great at marching into battle
Does pillage include army lists for thd first crusade?
As long as there are three there can be a Crusade
A great topic for the XLBS. I am guilty of the “This is a great idea” line of thinking. This leads to the sourcing as well but has meant I have my Hoard of Shame being more armies and not just single figures. Oh the time sunk into sourcing. I feel for everyone who know the same pain. I feel relief that I’m not the only one though.
On that note, @avernos, you have the plan of done is better than perfect from our featured Gorram. If you don’t finish and display more I await the day of your obituary from the crush of models that suddenly buried you while asleep in your bed. That might just means more sleeping on the couch.
As far as your own Pile of Shame @johnlyons, remember, Giftmas is coming. Anxiety might be your friend here.
@brennon… as long as you touch the minis you can get the urges out. As with your barbarians, touch them and spread your colorful love all over their tiny mostly naked bodies. Just leave out the details of your batrep of how you got there.
To @jamescutts, I suppose there is not much else that Gerry can complain about as he can’t button count a battleship. Good job on the mini boats.
@gorram A fine bit of business to put down on the board. A pleasure to continue watching it grow.
@denzien You’ve put out a good board. I hope you send a snail mail letter to Gerry describing your source for the terrain. If you can get a rate slower than third I’d suggest that to ensure he waited just long enough for the information.
But that was how I was going to start all my battle reports?
cue the Rolling Stones and ‘I can’t get no … satisfaction … ‘ 😉
damn it … I so know that room tetris feeling … ’cause that’s my hobby room right now as well.
moving stuff in order to get stuff were it needs to be while trying not to get distracted by the stuff that I’m moving.
We almost had a glorious cover image but alas that will sit in the vaults
Happy Sunday! Thanks for covering this topic today. These three XLBS topics in a row have been thought provoking and a little bit therapeutic!
What would I do if I had to start over? What one project WILL I finish? Where do I get the satisfaction in a project from? All powerful thought experiments – and I will come back to how this is helping me in a sec..
Firstly – one more topic suggestion which I would be interested to hear the crew’s thoughts on, and could bring this mini-series to a positive and motivational conclusion. Here it is:
What one project would you take on if you knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you could not fail to complete it? What would the hobby dream be if you had limitless motivation, money, and time?
For me it would be a room-sized (at least!) interior of a 32mm Ark Mechanicus. The room would be full of gaming boards of all sizes, with various parts of the Ark Mechanicus designed for different game types and sizes. 3D sections for Necromunda style games, more open areas (docking decks or enginariums) for 6×4 sized battles (or bigger). There would be arty dioramas throughout, artwork through viewing ports, and all manner of kitbashed servitors and tech priests wandering around as the ship’s crew. Some areas for gaming, some just to look pretty. I would have tomes of backstory and lore, all of my own creation. Oh and it would be somewhere where it could exist in perpetuity, long after I am dead! Easy right, what am i waiting for 😅
So back to the recent topics, what they are helping me to achieve is the “this is me” for my hobby. Being comfortable in my own skin with my strengths and foibles – in a similar way to what Gerry was describing with his hobby. “This is me and I am fine with that”. I’ve done it for work. When I turned 40 I said, “this is me”. My strengths are my strengths, my development points will ALWAYS be my development points. So rather than put most of my efforts into improving ‘weaknesses’, I will lean into my strengths such that my ‘weaknesses’ aren’t an issue. And lo and behold when I did that my performance shot up even more, and I enjoyed work a lot more.
So I am in the process of establishing that for my hobby. I will continue to enjoy idea creation. I might take a leaf out of @zoidpinhead ‘s book and explore them on paper for a while and not just leap into buy mode. Instead, when there is a gap in the hobby schedule, pick one of my ideas to work on. There needs to be a pause between idea and buy. Then there needs to be an intention. Is there a game (and a deadline) to work to, or is it just a painting project to express an idea? Any and all is fine. But I think the combination of allowing an idea to sit, and having an intention for execution will help. The “this is me” is that I WILL start projects I won’t finish. And I need to be fine with that. My next decision is whether to sell off a bunch of stuff where I know the ideas won’t be realised, or just sit on my hoard, Smaug-like, and say “this is me”?!
A cogent response. Perhaps the musing of the project system is really what many of us turn to when we have that spark. Taking that step away and putting it to paper, a shock against immediate result, could save from the temptation of building a positive feedback loop in The Hunt (getting images, info and minis) for yhe dopamine. The physical Hoard of Shame would be countered and even digital clutter contained.
I’m sure Tom would be glad for moderating the usage of digital assets as it means less overhaul for things when it breaks. Furthermore, if OTT is a digital library for future research, what kind of work will you want to be known for? Its a weird thought to follow but interesting to just work out while leaning into our strengths.
Looking for a Mick Jagger gif and not finding it? You can’t always get what you want…. (as that song is 56 years old, I wonder how people will know of it)
but if you try sometimes you might find you get what you need!
Thanks for the golden button. The building is an old forgeworld warhammer kit. But it’s so generic thanks to actually having no skulls it fits any table. This project is a hood example of my satisfaction. You get it all on the table and play a game with some normies and they either go wow you made all this and appreciate the work or they don’t realise at all. As long as I like it
Ah cool – thanks for letting me know, very cool!
“The painting output doesn’t match the idea generation” could be written on my gravestone .
Maybe we should all take it and stick it our collective gravestones to freak out future historians
“Is that evidence?”
“Oh no it’s much, much worse”
Drugs or GW? Cocaine is cheaper
But harder to get and most of the times cops won’t jail you for carrying some big box from G’Wullu
Hobby products. So much worse.
I’m too sexy for the ships
I’m too sexy for the ships
So sexy it hurts
And I’m too sexy for Salute, too sexy for Salute
London or Coleraine
And I’m too sexy for your game, too sexy for your game.
@jamescutts I demand royalties for the use of my image so I am claiming a percentage of your golden button 🙂
Seriously great work on your ships good to see some Naval stuff being recognised.
Happy Sunday.
I tend to be goal oriented so for me the most satisfaction is looking on the final project and thinking that “I did that”. But then I do really like the planning and of course watching the progress, stage by stage.
I CAN’T GET NO! *duududuudududu*
00:00 Hairy Sunday
00:00 Chips and potato dolphin war? oO w00t?
02:20 Staaaar Waaaars!
04:30 squieky! 8)
06:30 Panic sets in
07:35 HOLY MONKEYBALLS!
08:30 The Juggz Lady earned it!
09:15 clean garage? Sounds hauntingly familiar.
10:30 It’s not firesale! It’s clearing old stock.
15:22 @brennon rolls around like the Muppets move on stage… his profile picture now makes so much more sense! XD
16:00 Filthy Hobbitzes!
19:15 Pillage? Never heard of her.
20:30 oO
40:15 Rimmed the bases. Oh my!
57:00 I don’t know.
59:30 BOATS! need more rigging
1:05:00 Gobbos! Love ’em!
1:12:00 “Stuff sitting around” – is that a thing? XD
1:14:00 Technical difficulties!
1:19:00 Tarp.
1:20:00 Don’t mind the gap.
Serious answer: I really don’t know that brings me satisfaction. Could be all that was mentioned. Could be nothing. Could be community recognition/golden buttons/awards. Could be coffee.
Great to listen to this again! Looking forward to coming out to you guys in December!
Happy Sunday, has a retired 64 year old i find that i am enjoying my hobby more then ever due to time to do it and when i want to and my age is not a factor. I am of the mind set just do what you enjoy, i am not a guy who goes ” now this would be a great idea” and just go mad maybe it is because of my age!
Happy Sunday! I really enjoyed the conversation and breakdown of the “parts of gaming”. I do love all aspects, really, from the planning and imagining to gaming on a pretty table. It is the painting of toys that is my standout favorite part of the hobby. I find it really colors (no pun intended) and improves the other aspects. My planning involves far more of “will that be fun to build/paint” than, “will that win”. It also involves narrative as that is probably my second driving force in decision making, painting, and gaming. After almost 50 years of gaming I don’t recall specific games or opponents for the most part but rather the story that unfolded and how cool it looked.
A very happy sunday. Been volunteering alot on my weekends so nice to have chance to watch the show on a actual sunday…sitting on my num watching the Halijua Trail, old Bert Lancaster comedy western….tuckered out, needed a do nothing day. In hobby I tend to go for armies that can cover a few periods so FOW allied airborne ans soviet I can use for korea, indo china….i do similar by painting team yankee tan to cover cold war to gulf conflicts….I really enjoy painting up the epic sets. I have all but the punic offering but again the pike Coventers can ve added to the recent tricorn revolutionary set to cover the jacobite rebellion. I love the napoleonic but even there my aim is to build a force I can field as Dutch or American with just a change of flag. I will not apologise for my addiction to warp minis because they are just fab. For anything scifi I avoid the grimdark in favour of brigade models 15mm and warcradles dystopian age although I have enjoyed aeronauf in the past…..I will admit despite my lack of grim dark at present there is part of me, pure nostalgia, that would love to work on a epic scale titan or 3. I tend to go for small scales, likely due to what was ESCI and airfix, matchbox of my childhood. Anyway, excuse the essay, id write less but I start and get too lazy to stop. Wishing you all a fab weekend and even better week ahead
As was mentioned in the boradcast, I help to focus myself on an hobby area I enjoy (idea and project development) by using a book to write it down in first. This helps me to focus my ideas at an early stage and allows for some refinement and development without incuring any expense. I then have the written stuff to come back to before I go as far as getting my wallet out.
I’m sure Gerry would be glad to know he isn’t alone in sketching out formations for new forces. I aslo put table layouts together and make maps and write historical or fictional backgrounds too. I used to use any A4 bound notebook I happened to have but I have migrated to quite posh Moleskin ones that I got bought for Christmas one year. They last about 4 years and I’m on my 6th one.
An unintended consequence of doing this is that I have a complete record of every hobby idea I’ve got as far as wanting to write down in the last 20+ years. This resource is so useful and I go back through the books a few times each year to track or trace particular themes. They also contain my record of painting and recently I’ve taken to writing my annual planning and reviews in them as well. All very enjoyable if you happen to be me 🙂
Less than five minutes in and we’re clearly in a John edited episode 😂 a little disappointed to see the real thumbnail didn’t make it past the censors!
Thanks for the butt-butt – it’s not an army with a list, I haven’t even opened an army builder for it. I just fancied having a horde of goblins last November and keep accidentally buying more